Ethel's Dreams, Impressions and Imagery.

[Etheleona]

Painting of a Romanesque Building

Dream:

I met a man who knew a lot about things like aliens and time travel. I went to his apartment where we were discussing these things, and I began to feel romantically attracted to him. Then his mood changed and he started insulting me, and he even insulted me in front of another woman. I knew that if I tolerated this or tried to placate him, he would just keep on doing it, so I immediately got up and left. I figured if he wanted to see me again, he could call me, but I wasn't going to call him first. I had a tray of fried chicken and mashed potatoes, and I took it with me when I left.

This refers to changing a pattern relating to men and other people -- learning to let go of others' negative value judgements. Taking the food with me may refer to past lives when, as a female, I was dependent for sustenance upon a male such as a husband or master.

I next was walking through a school cafeteria or student center. I saw one of my high school friends, J.B., and stopped to talk with him. He ws writing a research paper on the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche. I thought, "I could write about that too."

Then I saw a large painting on the wall showing the front facade of a building, with steps and an entryway with a porch or columns. Something round to the side like a barrel, pedestal or short column (?). The building was made of brown stone and appeared to be Roman or perhaps Renaissance. It seemed to be a palace or other place of importance, in which something significant had occurred. I also got some impressions of the interior, of windows and heavy curtains.

I've been getting some strong feeling-impressions of the building -- perhaps something about Rome -- but no concrete details yet. Maybe Renaissance Rome rather than ancient Rome?

A visual image of a curve of shoreline, flat and green on top with straight brown cliffs plunging down to the sea, like a shelf sticking up out of the water

[Tiberius]

A visual image of a curve of shoreline, flat and green on top with straight brown cliffs plunging down to the sea, like a shelf sticking up out of the water

Does it look anything like this: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v192/ ... Harbor.jpg

[Etheleona]

Tiberius,

It's similar, and it was in the same orientation, facing to the left. My image was simpler, flat on the top and straight on the sides, but then my waking images don't have very much detail.

Who was Lucilla?

I also clicked on the arrow and looked at your picture of Tiberius' villa. The interior is similar to that of the building in my dream: the columns, the arches, and the windows on the end wall that look like church windows only not stained glass. The building in my dream was dark brown. Do you recall the color of your villa?

Another dream...

Burning City

I dreamed of an historical scene in which someone set fire to a city as part of a political strategy. It seemed to be in Asia. I saw people trying to get away from the fire by running across a highway to another section of the city. This was represented symbolically by people crossing a hallway inside a building and trying to get into the rooms on the other side. Some of the doors were open and some were locked. I knew that not everyone would make it.

This dream, like the previous one, has a clear, distinct feeling associated with it. My dreams, incidentally, often employ symbolic substitution of imagery, in which things that are large, complex, distant or foreign will be visually represented as something small, simple, close, and familiar -- in this case, a large, foreign city as an indoor scene in a hallway resembling that of a college dormitory.

[Tiberius]

It's similar, and it was in the same orientation, facing to the left. My image was simpler, flat on the top and straight on the sides, but then my waking images don't have very much detail.

Who was Lucilla?

I also clicked on the arrow and looked at your picture of Tiberius' villa. The interior is similar to that of the building in my dream: the columns, the arches, and the windows on the end wall that look like church windows only not stained glass. The building in my dream was dark brown. Do you recall the color of your villa?

This should answer most of your questions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capri . If you scroll down there are links to Tiberius's villa and Lucilla. The villa contained alot of marble but it's possible you may have visited there in a different era. I think parts of Capri and some of the ancient villas were later turned into churches, so that is a possibility since you felt it was more recent than ancient Rome. The cliff is the one I jumped off as Lucilla, I saw it in a dream 5 years ago yesterday, actually. I later saw that picture and it matched. There's alot of Capri pictures if you do a google image search.

[Etheleona]

My most recent PL dream:

A Farmer and His Daughter

I had a toy piano and/or typewriter, and at first I was excited about the creative things I could do with it. Then I noticed that a number of the keys were jammed or missing. [This refers to my present-life difficulties with typing and writing due to arthritis.] The scene switched to two men havng a conversation. It seemed to be in the past. One man was having difficulty communicating with his wife, and the other man suggested that he write notes and leave them lying around the house where she could find them. The idea was that he couId express himself more spontaneously in a notebook than face-to-face. I then saw the man write a long note to his wife which he left on her bedside table. In it, he explained that he was going to have to sell their farm because the taxes had become too high, and they would have to move.

Then I saw a detailed map or aerial view of the farm. At the north was the square, ranch-style farmhouse. It had a structure on the roof which the owner had recently built. South of this was an irregular patchwork of rectangular, pale-green fields, separated by dark-green hedges. To the west was a pine woods which was also part of the property. I got the impression that the farm had gotten too expensive to run due to taxes, rent or maintenance The improvements the farmer had made had raised its value.

This is one of the reasons I'm opposed to taxation: people who create improvements and raise the value of a property or business are punished by being forced to pay higher taxes. Evidently past-life experiences have contributed to my political beliefs in this respect. My interest in building, construction and landscape also shows up here.

Then I was a little girl. the daughter of the farmer. I was blonde and still quite young. My father and I were going on a trip in his truck to look for a new place to stay. First we drove through what looked like a long, narrow warehouse with large,square doors at the ends.. It was full of large pieces of machinery, and I was afraid we'd get stuck, but we got through without difficulty. My father said he was going to drive over to the next town to look over some possible sites for our new home and business. I said, "Are you taking me with you, daddy?" I didn't hear a verbal reply, but soon I was on the road with him. As we emerged from the warehouse into the bright sunlight, I felt a surge of excited joy, and also pride that he was going on the trip with me, instead of mommy.

The garage/warehouse structure with large, square doors at the ends has appeared in previous dreams, often associated with a father figure. And, yes, there's a bit of an "Electra complex" here. This probably indicates that I've had other lifetimes with these family members. From what I understand, the Oedipus/Electra complex often shows up when souls have been close relatives in several lifetimes, and switched roles -- from a spouse relationship to child/parent, or vice versa.

We went out of town down a road which ran parallel to a railroad track. On the right side of the road was an abandoned factory. The owner had left to move to a town further West where business was better. That was where we were going, too, to look for our new place. I felt a great sense of excitement and adventure at exploring someplace new, and I knew that as long as daddy was with me, I would always be safe.

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I think this is probably a past-life memory. The clues are: the detailed setting, the sense of a different time and place, and the strong emotional resonance, including the clear recognition of the farmer as my "daddy", and the feeling of a close bond with him.'

The dream itself consisted partly of the father's memories and partly of the daughter's, but it was the daughter with whom I felt the strongest personal identification. It's rare for close kin to be simuls, so my sharing of the father's thoughts and experiences was probably due to ancestral memory or consciousness transfer (which Elias calls "counterpart action"). From what I've read about it, memory transfer (like karma transfer) is common among close relatives.

My impression is that the location was in the United States, and, from the technological level, the time was probably the early twentieth century. This would, then, fit in with other dreams I've had of being the daughter of American immigrants in the twentieth century -- and possibly also withTiberius' impression of a twentieth c. female American life.

Tiberius, do you get any impressions about this little girl? Do you think she could have grown up to be a dance-hall girl and gangster's moll?

[Tiberius]

The dream itself consisted partly of the father's memories and partly of the daughter's, but it was the daughter with whom I felt the strongest personal identification. It's rare for close kin to be simuls, so my sharing of the father's thoughts and experiences was probably due to ancestral memory or consciousness transfer (which Elias calls "counterpart action"). From what I've read about it, memory transfer (like karma transfer) is common among close relatives.

Could be recalling it from an after death state. Alot who recall the between life state or have had near death experiences recall a life review. In some instances they can also experience their actions and their effects from the perspective of others in order to see the effect they had on them. That sounds like what your describing. I've actually done a hypnotic regression where I saw myself (current life) from the perspective of others.

My impression is that the location was in the United States, and, from the technological level, the time was probably the early twentieth century. This would, then, fit in with other dreams I've had of being the daughter of American immigrants in the twentieth century -- and possibly also withTiberius' impression of a twentieth c. female American life.

Tiberius, do you get any impressions about this little girl? Do you think she could have grown up to be a dance-hall girl and gangster's moll?

I was thinking of those impressions I did for you when reading this actually. I think it's very possible. It's hard to predict what kind of person someone will become when they are just a child, not that there aren't indications. Hell, if the time traveller's right it will eventually be possible to make a full pyschological profile of someone age 2-3 and accurately predict their adult personality! But I suppose that would require continuous monitering we don't currently possess and certainly didn't have in the 1920s .

[Etheleona]

Third World Dictator

My first dream of the Third-World dictator was a few years back. The dream was in the past in another country, which was symbolically represented by a local library. I was there as my present self but in nonphysical, phantom form, so I could move around without being seen by others (as in my other time-travel dreams). The dictator, whom I recognized as my other self, was a white or light-skinned man with black hair, beard and mustache. He was, apparently, not a very nice guy by modern standards. He had some of his opponents publically tortured and/or executed, and he was sitting in an auditorium or stadium watching. At one point, I went up to his seated body, sat down in his lap and merged with him so that I was now inside his body. He seemed to be fully aware, and accepting, of his/our dual identity and ability to bilocate. He/I also had a folder full of artwork he had done. Another man, an associate and confidant, was sitting next to him.

I recently had another dream about this life. I saw the identical man with black hair, wearing an official-looking uniform with lots of medals and ribbons. It was either blue or grey. He was standing in the middle of a crowded tavern. Once again, I was there as a phantom version of my present self. I moved toward him in the crowd, knowing no one could see me. Then, I experienced a moment of confusion, as I realised that if I were physically there as my current self, I wouldn't have been permitted to approach him. I sensed that he was not in very good health; he had contracted an illness from eating poisonous or infected seafood, and now he was slowly and painfully dying from it. I also clearly got the words 'Gold Coast".

I looked up "Gold Coast" and found that it was the region in Africa now known as Ghana. It was under European colonial governance from the 15th to the first half of the twentieth century. Parts of it were ruled by the British, Portugese, Dutch, Brandenburg Germans, and Swedish, so there are a lot of options.

I hadn't expected my "dictator" lifetime to be in Africa, because he was clearly white-skinned, but if it took place in the colonial era it makes sense.

One thing I noticed about this lifetime is that my "dictator" self was evidently highly dissociative, as shown by the fact that he could leave his body and bilocate while fully awake, and that he seemed aware of, and comfortable with, the presence of another personaity in his body. My current body, by contrast, is completely nondissociative. I'm nonhypnotizable, and I can astral-project only when my body is fully asleep and in the REM state. Meditation isn't enough. I've often felt, though, that I've been highly dissociative in other lifetimes, and been frustrated that I can't do the same things now that I could then.

[Tiberius]

Did you try looking up rulers and dictators from that era? If you ruled a country there should be record of you. Another possibility is that you were a colonial governor so were not officially dictator but ruled as one just the same.